Caught Up to Heaven--How Pastor Scott got Saved

What you're about to read is Pastor Scott's testimony about how he was brought up to Heaven in the power of the Holy Spirit and shown many things! The words in italics are the narrative itself, often interrupted by quotes from the Bible that the Lord led Scott to later that applied to the specific situations within this experience. Enjoy!

This experience started out as a regular dream.  I was at a picnic outdoors and it was a bright, sunny day and all the colors were vibrant.  There were lots of people at the picnic and all the tables were oversized, brown colored and loaded with food.  There was one particular table where the majority of the people were gathered around, all seated, and there was much laughter and joking.  The jovial attitude was mocking, however, all aimed at the man who was the center of attention also seated at the table: a man pretending to be Jesus Christ. The overall belief of everyone at the picnic was that although the Jesus imposter was a bit loony, he was harmless.  He had the look and dress of the traditional Jesus that we see in the movies and on paintings: the long white robes, long brown hair & beard, beautific smile, & brown puppy dog eyes.


The Jesus imposter was seated at the center of the table and all of the people sitting at the table with him were mocking him in a passive-aggressive manner, making jokes at his expense. 


When they had twisted a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand. And they bowed the knee before Him and mocked Him, saying, "Hail, King of the Jews!” (Matthew 27:29).


For He will be delivered to the Gentiles and will be mocked and insulted and spit upon. (Luke 18:32). 


How they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. (Jude 1:18-19).


After a short while, I decided it was my turn. I walked around the table and approached him from his left side.  Just as I was nearing him, someone at the table tempted him to perform a miracle.


Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah." (Matthew 12:38-39).


Before he had a chance to respond I came upon him, clapped him on the shoulder, and said in a condescending voice “well if you’re the Son of God, that shouldn’t be a problem!”


Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread." But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.' " (Matthew 4:3-4).


And those who passed by blasphemed Him, wagging their heads and saying, "You who destroy the temple and build it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross." Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, "He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, 'I am the Son of God.’ ” (Matthew 27:39-43).


“No, I guess it shouldn’t,” he responded and I laughed aloud, clapped him on the shoulder again and walked away. As I walked away, red flags were going up in my head . . . for every time my hand came in contact with his shoulder, a surge of warmth and love shot through my entire being.


Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him. (1 John 4:15-16). 


I did my best to dismiss such thoughts & feelings as I walked on. I left the picnic area alone and suddenly became very depressed.


So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. (John 8:7-9).


I came upon a dirt road which had a flatbed stake-body truck parked along side it.  I climbed up into the back of the truck and sat down, pulling my legs up and resting my chin on my knees.  From the corner of my eye to my left, I saw that the Jesus imposter had also left the picnic area and had followed me.  Without a word, he climbed up into the back of the truck and sat down beside me, taking up the same position.


“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish." (Matthew 18:12-14).


In the day of our king, Princes have made him sick, inflamed with wine; He stretched out his hand with scoffers. (Hosea 7:5).


Next thing you know the entire scene shifted!  We’re now driving down the very same dirt road in a car (which I believe was red).  The top of the car had been torn off—it wasn’t a convertible—it had been torn off.


For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops. (Luke 12:2-3).


The Jesus imposter was driving and I was in the passenger seat and we were going about 30 mph.  Up ahead I saw a metal gate that was closed and blocking the road and on the gate was a STOP sign which someone had painted graffiti over it that read “this gate is for Jesus only!”


"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13-14).


“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. " (John 10:1-3).


Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6).


The Jesus imposter showed no signs of slowing down as we neared the gate and I recall thinking that this crazy man was going to cause us to crash into the gate and get hurt, despite only going 30 mph.  Having no seatbelt, I braced my feet against the floor of the car and waited for impact. It never came—we passed through the gate like we were ghosts.  When we got to the other side of the gate, my whole world changed.


We were now in space.  I could see the stars all around me and was absolutely blown away.  We suddenly surged forward so fast that I knew we were traveling beyond the speed of light.  The stars were whizzing by us like they do in STAR TREK when the Enterprise goes to warp speed. 


I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows. (2 Corinthians 12:2-3).


In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. (1 Corinthians 15:52).


I was paralyzed with awe and had stopped breathing.  My mouth hung open at the experience, but it didn’t compare to what happened next. Revelation flowed into me like never before, the greatest revelation of all: that the Being Who sat next to me was not an imposter at all, that He was truly Jesus Christ the Son of God!  (Please note that He was not a figment of my dream imagination or anything of the sort—it was Him in the celestial flesh.) 


He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 16:15-17).


I turned my head slowly to look at Him, my mouth still wide open.  When I saw His face, I was overcome with fear: gone was the pleasant smile and in its place was a look so serious I thought I was in trouble.  It was like the look Clint Eastwood gives when he’s about to have a gunfight. He was staring straight at me and I could do nothing—I couldn’t move, speak, nor tear my gaze away.


The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. (Psalm 111:10).


The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. (Proverbs 1:7).


Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. (Romans 11:22).


Suddenly, the scene shifted again and we were on land.  We’re now standing in a desert—not like the Sahara, but more the badlands here in the U.S. 


They wandered in the wilderness in a desolate way; They found no city to dwell in. Hungry and thirsty, their soul fainted in them. (Psalm 107:4-5)


We were face to face and I got a good look at Him.  He still looked like the traditional Jesus, but His robes weren’t pearly white and clean like before, but had the creamy look that white clothing gets when its been around awhile.  Instead of going all the way to His feet, the robes stopped just below His knees so that I could even see the brown hairs on His calves.  His calves, feet & bottom of His robes were dirty like He’d been walking for awhile on a dirt road.  He also had a dark red/maroon sash that went from His left shoulder to His right hip.


Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments, And I have stained all My robes. (Isaiah 63:3).


He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. (Revelation 19:13).


My vision abruptly turned inward, and my whole life played out before me like a video on fast forward.  Starting from my infancy right up until the present moment, every sin that I’d ever committed was laid open and exposed. 


"For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops." (Luke 12:2-3).


Not only the sins themselves, but the effects those sins had had upon others.  I was made to FEEL all the hurt I’d caused in my lifetime and I was completely overwhelmed. 


"And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment." (John 16:8).


Even though most people (myself included) considered me to be a good person, my sin and the pain I’d caused was like an ocean and I was treading water in the middle with no land for hundreds of miles.


So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God." (Matthew 19:17).


"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23). 


I recall being astounded that even my sinful thoughts were known and had hurt others! 


The Lord knows the thoughts of man, That they are futile. (Psalm 94:11).


Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (Genesis 6:5).


But Jesus, knowing their thoughts . . .  (Matthew 9:4).


I could hide nothing from Christ, all was exposed and He knew every detail. 


And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. (Hebrews 4:13).


When the experience ended, I found myself kneeling before Him, calling Him Lord, and sobbing without control. 


That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:10-11).


(Keep something in mind: I was still in the occult at the time of this dream and had come from a belief system where we considered it wrong to kneel down before God or call Him “Lord”!  Our cult leader had convinced us that God didn’t really want that because that was akin to slavery, yet I found myself kneeling before Him and calling Him “Lord” all throughout this experience.  I couldn’t help it.  It’s my answer to that song “I Can Only Imagine.”  In the presence of our Savior & Creator, our knees will bow and our tongues will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!)


I clutched the side of His knees, bowed my head and began screaming & groveling: “I’m sorry!  I’m so sorry!  I had no idea! Please forgive me!!!” 


Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation. (2 Corinthians 7:9-10).


Then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.  (Zechariah 12:10).


I couldn’t stop screaming this and somehow I knew it that no matter how many times I did it would never be enough. 


This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief. (1 Timothy 1:15).


Then I was blessed with my second revelation as I knelt there clutching Him: that Jesus Christ truly was God, that He created the universe, the earth and me. 


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. (Genesis 1:1).


And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. (Genesis 2:7).


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. (John 1:1-4).


At that moment a connection between the two of us was made in my spirit—one that ran so deeply within that I realized that every human in the world was desperately needed and was supposed to have this connection with Him and that mine had just been reestablished by Him.


"At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you." (John 14:20).


But, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies. (Ephesians 4:15-16).


As I continued to hold Him and beg for forgiveness, He suddenly leaned down to where our foreheads almost touched and placed His hands on either side of my shoulders.  (I would like to say that even though I was in the spirit, it was as though I were in my physical body.  When I clutched the sides of His knees, I could feel the texture of His robes and His bones and muscle beneath my hands! When His powerful hands gripped my shoulders He clearly had a strength that was beyond that of Sampson, yet He was gentle and did not hurt me.)


I could feel His hair draping over my head completely and against my face, it was that vivid. It was the most peaceful and reassuring thing I'd ever felt in my life, completely removing the stark fear and shame I'd been experiencing a moment before.   



But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. (1 Corinthians 11:3-7).


Explanation: Just as women are supposed to have long hair to cover their heads, men are suppose to have short or no hair for Jesus is their covering. When Jesus’ hair draped over mine, He was showing me that He was now my covering! That He'd forgiven me of my past and I was now one of His!


He whispered into my ear: “the rumors that you’ve heard are true.  I’ve come out of my shell and am now the lion.”


Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; and he saw the linen cloths lying there, and the handkerchief that had been around His head, not lying with the linen cloths, but folded together in a place by itself. (John 20:6-7).


Explanation: the Hebrew rite of burial was similar to Egyptian mummification in that certain oils and herbs were applied to the burial cloth making it hard. What Peter and John actually saw was a “shell” and not just the cloth lying flat. The handkerchief lying separately would have allowed them to look into the shell that has contained the body to see it miraculously empty!


So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.” (Revelation 5:4-5).


Not being a Christian or a student of the Bible at the time, I had no idea what that meant.  Without warning, His hands tightened on my shoulders and He effortlessly lifted me into the air and set me on my feet—I weigh about 200 lbs in the physical. I was amazed at His great strength! I realized at that moment that He was going to say more things to me. 


And He said to me, “Son of man, stand on your feet, and I will speak to you.” Then the Spirit entered me when He spoke to me, and set me on my feet; and I heard Him who spoke to me. (Ezekiel 2:1-2).


"But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils." (Luke 11:22).


Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. (Ephesians 6:10).


I realized that this was truly Jesus the Christ Who was standing before me and that I needed to listen to everything that He said and remember it when I “woke up.”  Thus, I made my best effort to stop crying.  Somehow, I got myself from the out and out sobbing to just the “hiccup” type crying that we often do when we’re coming out of it. Throughout the rest of this experience, however, I continued with the hiccup type crying and could not shut it off.


We stood face to face again on the dirt road in the badlands type setting, and Jesus looked off to His right into the horizon.  The wind was blowing slightly, and I could see it gently brushing His shoulder-length brown hair. “The people of this world are in trouble,” He said, then He started walking down the road.


Behold, the day of the Lord comes, Cruel, with both wrath and fierce anger, To lay the land desolate; And He will destroy its sinners from it. For the stars of heaven and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be darkened in its going forth, and the moon will not cause its light to shine. “I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will halt the arrogance of the proud, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible." (Isaiah 13:9-11).


Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.” He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!" (Matthew 13:36-43).


"And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." (John 3:19).


The road suddenly turned into a cave that looked man-made because it was so perfectly cut, smooth and round inside.  He was walking about 10 feet ahead of me and no matter how fast I went I could never catch up with Him.  After a few moments He stopped and so did I.  He turned back toward me and kicked a rock lying on the ground which slid and came to a rest right in front of me.  It was a flat rock, like the kind you use when skipping rocks on a pond, and had the number 7 written on it in white. “It has begun,” He stated, then turned and continued walking down the cave.  “What has begun, Lord?” I asked, staring at the rock for a moment then following Him, but He didn’t answer.


And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. (Genesis 2:2-3).


Explanation: According to Dispensational Theology, the 7 days of Creation are symbolic of God’s grand plan for humanity, each “day” symbolizing 1000 years (2 Peter 3:8). The Second Coming starts the Millennial Kingdom of Christ which lasts for 1000 years (the last “day” also the “day of rest”) [Revelation 20:1-7]. Thus, the 7 on the rock Jesus kicked toward me indicated His return is at hand! (Revelation 22:12).


As we continued walking, I had a peculiar sense of déjà vu.  Something told me that all of this had already happened to me, yet I knew it had not….  ALSO, since entering the cave we communicated telepathically—our lips never moved when we talked but I heard Him loud and clear in my head.  When I spoke to Him it was the same way.


Now when Moses went into the tabernacle of meeting to speak with Him, he heard the voice of One speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the Testimony, from between the two cherubim; thus He spoke to him. (Numbers 7:89).


"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27).


We suddenly came to the end of the cave, and a short cement stairway lead into a doorway.  Jesus stopped at the bottom of the stairway and held His hand up for me to stop.  I did so.  After a couple seconds, He waved me forward then He ascended the stairs into the room.  I followed. 


As I was ascending the stairs myself, I already knew what was in the room (despite never having been there before!)  The doorway led into one end of the room and straight ahead was another doorway that was the exit.  The majority of the room was to our left.  Since I knew what was in there, I brought my left hand up to shield my eyes . . . for what was in the room were mangled and bloody human body parts almost piled up to the ceiling and I didn’t want to see it. 


Jesus stopped in the center (the body parts were to our left, we were on the right side of the room) and stooped down and began writing something on the floor.  I looked over His shoulder to see what He was writing, but before I could get a good glimpse some water lapped up (like water on a beach) from the right side of the room and began to cause what He’d written to fade and then disappear altogether. “Lord, You’re writings disappear!” I said, pointing. 


O Lord, the hope of Israel, All who forsake You shall be ashamed. “Those who depart from Me Shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the Lord, The fountain of living waters.” (Jeremiah 17:13).


“Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear. So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.” (John 8:4-11).


Then behold, men brought on a bed a man who was paralyzed, whom they sought to bring in and lay before Him. And when they could not find how they might bring him in, because of the crowd, they went up on the housetop and let him down with his bed through the tiling into the midst before Jesus. When He saw their faith, He said to him, “Man, your sins are forgiven you.” And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the man who was paralyzed, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” Immediately he rose up before them, took up what he had been lying on, and departed to his own house, glorifying God. (Luke 5:18-25).


Explanation: For 11 years I had no interpretation for the meaning of what was in this room until the night of June 26th 2008 while watching the Lakeland Outpouring when someone testified of a boy who was caught up to Heaven and found himself in a similar room and was told it indicated healing. Jesus writing on the floor was Him writing the names of those condemned to Hell (the unsaved). The water/blood that lapped up to wash it away was Him forgiving their sin which is done through His blood and the washing by the water of the Word (Ephesians 5:26). It also signified by the blood/water mix that came out of His side at the Cross when pierced by the spear of the Roman soldier (John 19:34). The mangled body parts are from the curse of sin and death brought about by Adam after he ate the forbidden fruit. As we see from Luke and the other synoptic gospels, healing and salvation occurred at the same time. Peter also attests that there’s healing that accompanies the atonement (1 Peter 2:24).


It confirmed a word that Becky had received that her and I were to have a healing ministry. Afterwards we received another miraculous confirmation of the same when I read the next verse in Jeremiah 17 (after the writing on the earth thing)—verse 14: "Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved."


Without a word, Jesus stood up and exited the room.  I followed. The next room was like a living room and there were 5 young people lounging about within: I believe there were 3 men and 2 women, perhaps 4 men and 1 woman.  I can’t say for sure.  Despite walking right in their midst, they could not see or hear us!  The room had a dark, green carpet with a coffee table and footstool resting next to each other. 


Jesus knelt down before the coffee table and I before the footstool.  From within His robes, Jesus suddenly brought out 3 computer chips—two smaller ones that were twins and one very large one.  He gave the 2 smaller ones to me and kept the large one for Himself.


“Move the footstool,” He commanded, and I obeyed.  There were indentations on the carpet where the 4 legs of the stool had rested.


As soon as I moved it, the 5 people in the room suddenly took notice.  They stared and pointed at the footstool.  I realized that since they could not see or hear us, what they perceived was that the footstool had moved across the floor of its own volition!


“Place the computer chips in the indentations,” Jesus instructed, and I did so. “Now move the footstool back to its original place, over the computer chips.”


“But Lord,” I protested, “the people in the room will see it!”


“It’s alright,” He responded, and I obeyed.


As soon as I moved the footstool again, the 5 people in the room became very excited, gesturing to the stool and talking amongst themselves.


“Help me move the coffee table,” Jesus said, and I obeyed.


Together we moved the coffee table and Jesus placed the large computer chip He’d kept into one of the indentations.  “Help me move it back,” He said, and we moved it back onto the indentations, covering up the chip He’d placed there.


The 5 people in the room were so excited now they could barely contain themselves.  They moved the footstool and discovered the two computer chips I’d placed there and were in awe.  They did the same with the coffee table and were more in awe of the large chip.  Jesus stood up and left the room, but I waited to hear what the 5 young people were talking about.  I don’t recall the exact conversation, but it had to do with computers and the internet.  I finally stood up and followed Jesus.


In the next room was a young, black woman who was sitting at a computer busily typing away.  Jesus was standing behind her, looking over her shoulder in a very approving manner.  After a few moments, Jesus left the room but I stayed.  The woman turned and looked straight at me.


“You can see me?” I asked.


“Of course I can see you!” she responded.


Despite never having met her before, I knew her and loved her (in a Godly manner) as and it was clear she felt the same way about me.  She leapt out of her chair and we embraced like long lost friends who hadn’t seen each other in years.


I must have hugged her a bit too enthusiastically, because she suddenly said “not too hard!”


I let her go and looked down at her belly.  “You’re pregnant!” I stated in astonishment.


“6 months along,” she responded. 


We both fell silent for a moment and both stared in the direction where Jesus had walked off (she could see Him).  I was still doing the hiccup-crying thing, and I apologized to her about it, saying “being around Him does this to me.”


“Yeah, me too,” she agreed.  I then left the room and followed Jesus.


EXPLANATION: the black pregant woman represents Israel, the Jews (Revelation 12:1-2). Being black represents persecution, the Jews by far being the most persecuted people and religion on the planet. Being a woman is how God portrayed her all through the Old Testament, much like He portrays the Church. Both have a marital relationship with God, Who represents the Bridegroom. When Gentiles (non-Jews) are Saved were are grafted into covenant with God along with Israel, represented by an Olive Tree (Romans 11:16-18). With His work at the Cross and the Resurrection, Jesus broke down the wall of separation between Jew and Gentile and formed us into "one new man" (Ephesians 2:15-18). Her and I acting like we're best friends denotes this relatonship. Her being able to see Jesus as the Messiah is Israel AFTER the Holy Spirit has been poured out upon her (not yet happened) and she "looks up Him (Jesus) who she pierced (crucified) and mourns as one mourns for a firstborn son" (Zechariah 12:10).  Israel being 6 months pregnant is the beginning of the 3rd trimester means she is in the last 3 months before she gives what? Revelation 12 shows she gives birth to the Messiah, Jesus. The dream is referring to the Second Coming, when Jesus returns as the Lion of Judah and conquering King of kings and Lord of lords (Revelation 19). The overall message from this part of the experience is that Christians need to treat the Jews as they are: God's people and that we will all be reconciled one to another once God pours the Spirit upon them, they repent, and finally see Jesus as their Messiah. Second part of the message is that we are closer to the Second Coming than we think!


I followed Jesus into a church, a fairly small one.  Jesus walked up to the front of the church and sat down at a table that was there—for the first time since He was revealed to me, He smiled.  At that moment, I realized that my ability to communicate with Him telepathically was gone, as was my invisibility.  He was still invisible, though.


There were no pews, but metallic fold up chairs that were lined up in rows.  The people were in absolute disarray, yelling and screaming at each other, every one of them!  The dispute seemed to be WHO should sit WHERE.  I went to a row where a middle aged woman was sitting and was actively involved in the conflict.  I sat one seat away from her, and she suddenly turned her attention on me and said “good! You sit there!” She calmed down and seemed satisfied with my choice.  I realized then that the people in this church were fighting about that—the no one should sit next to each other but have at least one seat between them.


EXPLANATION: this represents the Church in its current state (sigh). In great disarray and fighting among themselves as to who is going to be the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven much like the disciples did (Mark 9:33-34, Luke 22:24-27). It also shows the current lack of unity and fellowship (love thy neighbor as thyself) within the Church, that no one wanted to sit next to one another. The people fighting with each other in the Sanctuary represents the different denominations in conflict with each other--there are over 50,000 denominations in the US alone. This is the opposite of Christ's vision for the Church as evidenced by the great unity and accord that existed in the early Church when the Apostles still walked the earth (Acts 2:42-47). Jesus placing Himself at the front of the Church shows His role as the Head of the Church (Colossians 1:18). He's smiling despite the infighting because He loves His Church as He loves His own Body because we are His Body (Ephesians 5:25-33). Jesus is "invisible" to the Church because they are too busy focusing on each other and all of their conflicting differences and not upon Him where their eyes belong.


There were 2 old folk sitting in the front row next to each other.  One or both of them suddenly cried out that they were thirsty.  The whole room quieted down and I realized they could suddenly see Jesus seated at the front of the church.  He stood up and there were several objects on the table in front of Him.  He took one in each hand and then walked out from behind the table to stand before the 2 old people. He frowned for a moment as if concentrating, and drew a circle with the object in His right hand.  It turned into a pitcher of water.  He did the same motion with the object in His left hand and it turned into 2 glasses.  He then filled both glasses full of water and gave them to the old people. At this point my consciousness began to fade and I knew the experience was coming to an end.  I silently begged Jesus to let it continue forever, because I didn’t want to ever leave Him.  I was given the strong sense that I needed to go back to the physical world, however, because I had work to do.  END.


EXPLANATION: the two old folk represent veteran Christians who are truly thirsty for Jesus and His righteousness (Matthew 5:6). Unlike everyone else in the room, they're sitting next to one another in unity and Christian fellowship. The fact that there's two of them doesn't escape me, for matters are established when there are two of three witnesses (Matthew 18:16).  When they cry out in thirst, they're the only voices focused on Christ which convicts the rest of the Church of their sin and finally gets them to stop fighting and focus on Jesus. Jesus fulfills His promise in the Beatitudes that all who are hungry and thirsty for righteousness will be filled. I had to come back because my race is not yet run or done and there is much work in spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom and making disciples (Matthew 28:19).


Well, not quite the end….  There is one more short segment that does not fit in with any other part of this experience.  I don’t know when it happened, beginning, middle or end, just that it did. 


I’m following Jesus down a paved road in civilization and it looks exactly like Grove Street in Addison.  Instead of being dressed in His white robe and red sash He was now dressed only in a loincloth and had the crown of thorns on His head--exactly the way He appears on all the paintings of Him when He's on the Cross. Before us was an impassable man-made barricade that completely blocked the road and was about 50 feet high.  On the right hand side of the road was a tunnel that led down and clearly went under the barricade, therefore bypassing it.  The mouth of the tunnel was very, very, very dark and just looking at it made me afraid.  Jesus was walking about 10 feet ahead of me and He stopped at the mouth of the tunnel, turned toward me and looked right at me.  He lifted up His left arm and pointed at the entrance of the tunnel.  END.


EXPLANATION: the barricade is the wall of separation (sin, death) between God and man. No hard work or toil can break it down or climb over it. Jesus is "dressed" and ready to be crucified and is telling me I need to pick up my own Cross, deny myself, and follow Him to do the same (Matthew 10:38-39). Just as He was crucifed thus I need to die to the self. Just as He descended into the darkness of death (represented by the dark tunnel) so must I if I want to bypass the barrier...for on the other side is God, His Kingdom, and fellowship with Him. Jesus paved the way to His Father and He is the only Way (John 14:6). If we want to live forever with Him and His Father in the Kingdom of Heaven, this is the Way...HOW ABOUT YOU?


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